Self, Made "Episode 6: The Surprises (and Stumbles) of Building"

March 2025

In this episode of Self, Made, Michelle, Quark, and Nathalie, co-founders of SAYA, take stock of the first seven months of building SAYA—what’s been surprising, what’s been challenging, and what they’re still figuring out. From realizing how much “founder work” they were already doing in past roles to learning when to push back (and when to let go), it’s been a crash course in leadership, resilience, and questioning what they thought they knew.Whether you’re a founder, a future founder, or simply navigating your professional evolution, this dialogue explores insights on ownership, adaptability, and building with intention.